Comments on: hold the iPhone http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/ in perpetual beta Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:23:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: cubeXpert http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-29139 cubeXpert Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:09:27 +0000 http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/#comment-29139 If you want more iPhone RDF, check out this video I just put together... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhpBlINkUo If you want more iPhone RDF, check out this video I just put together…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhpBlINkUo

]]> By: Joshua http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-29114 Joshua Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:24:35 +0000 http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/#comment-29114 Cube, that's a good point; I don't know if "publicity stunt" is an accurate name for what's going on — no one cares about it —, but I suspect you're right: the easy way around the issue is to change the name. Cube, that’s a good point; I don’t know if “publicity stunt” is an accurate name for what’s going on — no one cares about it —, but I suspect you’re right: the easy way around the issue is to change the name.

]]> By: cubeXpert http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-28834 cubeXpert Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:11:16 +0000 http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/#comment-28834 The iPhone fight is just a big publicity stunt. When the real deal emerges in june, I'll bet the name is changed to Apple Phone or something similar (as long as it has an Apple logo in front). Nowhere on the iPhone prototypes can you see the name iPhone. Bob Cringely has published an interesting article on this topic. The iPhone fight is just a big publicity stunt. When the real deal emerges in june, I’ll bet the name is changed to Apple Phone or something similar (as long as it has an Apple logo in front). Nowhere on the iPhone prototypes can you see the name iPhone.

Bob Cringely has published an interesting article on this topic.

]]> By: Jimmy http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-28828 Jimmy Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:16:47 +0000 http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/#comment-28828 I just think it's funny that a company who considers itself so new school and cutting-edge would spend so much time and money trying to pry the seven-year-old rights to the name "iPhone" from Cisco's grip, only to fail to negotiate a deal in time for the big unveiling and have their stunning proclamation scarred by a lawsuit. I guess they did enough market research to prove that affixing a lower case “i” to anything would be enough to get the pepsi generation to empty their pockets. I can only imagine how bad some of the other suggestions were that it made the expense worth while. I just think it’s funny that a company who considers itself so new school and cutting-edge would spend so much time and money trying to pry the seven-year-old rights to the name “iPhone” from Cisco’s grip, only to fail to negotiate a deal in time for the big unveiling and have their stunning proclamation scarred by a lawsuit. I guess they did enough market research to prove that affixing a lower case “i” to anything would be enough to get the pepsi generation to empty their pockets. I can only imagine how bad some of the other suggestions were that it made the expense worth while.

]]> By: Joshua http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-28809 Joshua Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:40:27 +0000 http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/#comment-28809 Oh, I realize that. The odds seem against me, though. Oh, I realize that. The odds seem against me, though.

]]> By: cubeXpert http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-28777 cubeXpert Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:37:25 +0000 http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/#comment-28777 Remember that this is the Apple iPhone shown at Macworld Expo we are discussing. There is nothing that says the one shipping in June will be exactly like this one when it comes to included software. Apple has all the options to tweak the iPhone platform along the way. If they will offer support for any sort of third–party software, my bet is that widgets are the way to go. If you need a tricked out company phone, don't buy an iPhone. Remember that this is the Apple iPhone shown at Macworld Expo we are discussing. There is nothing that says the one shipping in June will be exactly like this one when it comes to included software.

Apple has all the options to tweak the iPhone platform along the way. If they will offer support for any sort of third–party software, my bet is that widgets are the way to go.

If you need a tricked out company phone, don’t buy an iPhone.

]]> By: Joshua http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-28639 Joshua Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:21:32 +0000 http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/#comment-28639 Yeah, but Apple's end-run them each time pretty handily. It's odd, but this fact has completely squelched my enthusiasm — and that was a lot — for this device. I mean, it's a supernice phone, but I'm not spending that much of a fucking <i>phone</i>. I'd spend it on a computer. But not a phone. I mean, I use iChat and I like it a lot as a chat client. But Safari falls down on some sites that I use a lot, so I use BonEcho (a Firefox). I mean, I can't believe that I'm saying this, but after two years of sweaty-palmed anticipation, I don't care about it anymore. My Treo has yet to fuck up Sprint (although there are a million overpriced ways to fuck up my Treo), and it's got a pile of apps. I mean, shit, if there's a way around Apple's DRM, don't you think it would be applied to, you know, computers? Or are they planning on removing iTMS support for computers altogether? (hint: no.) See, real widget support would be enough to get me excited about it. I could use any of the bazillion that exist and could hack away at one to make it what I want. But apparently that won't fly. So, no, I think this is just "we know better than you"ism, and they figure it's cool because it's not a computer (though clearly it is). Yeah, but Apple’s end-run them each time pretty handily.

It’s odd, but this fact has completely squelched my enthusiasm — and that was a lot — for this device.

I mean, it’s a supernice phone, but I’m not spending that much of a fucking phone. I’d spend it on a computer. But not a phone.

I mean, I use iChat and I like it a lot as a chat client. But Safari falls down on some sites that I use a lot, so I use BonEcho (a Firefox).

I mean, I can’t believe that I’m saying this, but after two years of sweaty-palmed anticipation, I don’t care about it anymore. My Treo has yet to fuck up Sprint (although there are a million overpriced ways to fuck up my Treo), and it’s got a pile of apps.

I mean, shit, if there’s a way around Apple’s DRM, don’t you think it would be applied to, you know, computers? Or are they planning on removing iTMS support for computers altogether? (hint: no.)

See, real widget support would be enough to get me excited about it. I could use any of the bazillion that exist and could hack away at one to make it what I want. But apparently that won’t fly.

So, no, I think this is just “we know better than you”ism, and they figure it’s cool because it’s not a computer (though clearly it is).

]]> By: Luke http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-28635 Luke Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:53:13 +0000 http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/#comment-28635 Wasn't FairPlay already cracked? I vaguely remember 2 or 3 different occasions in the last 2 years that someone had a working implementation. One of these cracks was connected to DVDJohn I think... Meh.. Wasn’t FairPlay already cracked? I vaguely remember 2 or 3 different occasions in the last 2 years that someone had a working implementation. One of these cracks was connected to DVDJohn I think…

Meh..

]]> By: Jeff http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-28622 Jeff Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:02:37 +0000 http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/#comment-28622 Right, but, there couldn't be any special support of the hardware, so while web apps are nifty -- Google Documents in particular would be killer on the iPhone -- they couldn't take advantage of the particular advantages of the iPhone hardware. Right, but, there couldn’t be any special support of the hardware, so while web apps are nifty — Google Documents in particular would be killer on the iPhone — they couldn’t take advantage of the particular advantages of the iPhone hardware.

]]> By: cubeXpert http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-28618 cubeXpert Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:32:43 +0000 http://ldopa.net/2007/01/12/hold-the-iphone/#comment-28618 With iPhones strong support of fully functional web content, custom applications won't even be necessary. Put the application on the web instead and access it through the iPhone. As long as the browser is modern and standards compliant, web applications are the way to go... With iPhones strong support of fully functional web content, custom applications won’t even be necessary. Put the application on the web instead and access it through the iPhone.

As long as the browser is modern and standards compliant, web applications are the way to go…

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