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		<title>By: Jon Land</title>
		<link>http://ldopa.net/2006/09/29/this-is-not-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-11451</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Land</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should check out John Dean&#039;s new(ish) book &quot;Conservatives Without Conscience&quot;. It&#039;s a nice semi-psychological take about how we have an authoritarian regime in charge, and how that&#039;s bordering on fascism.

It&#039;s especially good that Dean wrote it, being a conservative.

The Constitution is currently being used as toilet paper seeing as with every bill that becomes a law, Bush signs additional paperwork saying he doesn&#039;t have to respect said law. God Bless America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should check out John Dean&#8217;s new(ish) book &#8220;Conservatives Without Conscience&#8221;. It&#8217;s a nice semi-psychological take about how we have an authoritarian regime in charge, and how that&#8217;s bordering on fascism.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s especially good that Dean wrote it, being a conservative.</p>
<p>The Constitution is currently being used as toilet paper seeing as with every bill that becomes a law, Bush signs additional paperwork saying he doesn&#8217;t have to respect said law. God Bless America!</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://ldopa.net/2006/09/29/this-is-not-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-11443</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me? You&#039;re saying this to me? Who owns and has rewatched that movie maybe 7 or 8 times?

What the fuck is wrong with Michael Jackson, bro?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me? You&#8217;re saying this to me? Who owns and has rewatched that movie maybe 7 or 8 times?</p>
<p>What the fuck is wrong with Michael Jackson, bro?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://ldopa.net/2006/09/29/this-is-not-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-11442</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you haven&#039;t seen David O. Russell&#039;s 1999 movie &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://imdb.com/title/tt0120188/ &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Three Kings&lt;/a&gt;&quot;, now&#039;s a good time. 

There&#039;s a scene where Mark Wahlberg, while being tortured by Iraqis, has his mouth opened wide and gets a CD case jammed in the mouth; all the better to shunt the crude oil in.

And I can&#039;t think of a better metaphor for American politics right now.

~jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t seen David O. Russell&#8217;s 1999 movie &#8220;<a href="http://imdb.com/title/tt0120188/ " rel="nofollow">Three Kings</a>&#8220;, now&#8217;s a good time. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a scene where Mark Wahlberg, while being tortured by Iraqis, has his mouth opened wide and gets a CD case jammed in the mouth; all the better to shunt the crude oil in.</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t think of a better metaphor for American politics right now.</p>
<p>~jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://ldopa.net/2006/09/29/this-is-not-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-11441</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a better answer:

The Geneva Convention was designed so that those who abide by it can &lt;i&gt;mutually&lt;/i&gt; reduce the horror of war.

That we have spat on such a document now means that no one is beholden not to torture Americans. 

The part that I find particlarly appalling is that due process, which is designed so that we know we&#039;ve got the right guy and can punish with the moral authority that &quot;punishment&quot; implies, has been overturned.

Tell your mom this:

There is no longer a law that prevents the FBI from capturing her, not telling her what she&#039;s done, not telling her family what she&#039;s done, trying her without a lawyer&#039;s ability to see and protest evidence, imprison her indefinitely in a secret prison, and execute her.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a better answer:</p>
<p>The Geneva Convention was designed so that those who abide by it can <i>mutually</i> reduce the horror of war.</p>
<p>That we have spat on such a document now means that no one is beholden not to torture Americans. </p>
<p>The part that I find particlarly appalling is that due process, which is designed so that we know we&#8217;ve got the right guy and can punish with the moral authority that &#8220;punishment&#8221; implies, has been overturned.</p>
<p>Tell your mom this:</p>
<p>There is no longer a law that prevents the FBI from capturing her, not telling her what she&#8217;s done, not telling her family what she&#8217;s done, trying her without a lawyer&#8217;s ability to see and protest evidence, imprison her indefinitely in a secret prison, and execute her.</p>
<p>When the Nazis came for the communists,<br />
I remained silent;<br />
I was not a communist.</p>
<p>When they locked up the social democrats,<br />
I remained silent;<br />
I was not a social democrat.</p>
<p>When they came for the trade unionists,<br />
I did not speak out;<br />
I was not a trade unionist.</p>
<p>When they came for me,<br />
there was no one left to speak out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://ldopa.net/2006/09/29/this-is-not-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-11438</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 12:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s heartbreaking. Follow up via some of the links &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2006/09/we_are_now_officially_living_i.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; if you have the stomach for it.

I got into a mildly heated discussion about this with my parents the other night. My mom, who leans towards the right (much to me and my dad&#039;s dismay), asked why America shouldn&#039;t be able to use any of the same &quot;interrogation techniques&quot; as the other side -- what other side? -- does. 

The only answer I could think of is that &quot;we have to be &lt;i&gt;better&lt;/i&gt; than that&quot;.


~jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s heartbreaking. Follow up via some of the links <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2006/09/we_are_now_officially_living_i.php" rel="nofollow">here</a> if you have the stomach for it.</p>
<p>I got into a mildly heated discussion about this with my parents the other night. My mom, who leans towards the right (much to me and my dad&#8217;s dismay), asked why America shouldn&#8217;t be able to use any of the same &#8220;interrogation techniques&#8221; as the other side &#8212; what other side? &#8212; does. </p>
<p>The only answer I could think of is that &#8220;we have to be <i>better</i> than that&#8221;.</p>
<p>~jeff</p>
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